From hape@compuserve.com Sun Oct 30 14:45:30 2005 Received: from liaag1ab.mx.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.28]) by stoneboat.aleph1.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1EWENo-0000WU-00 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:42:04 +0000 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by liaag1ab.mx.compuserve.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/g1.1) id j9UEg2HN029882 for cave-survey-archive@wookware.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:42:02 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:41:20 -0500 From: Harry Pearman Sender: Harry Pearman To: cave survey archive Message-ID: <200510300941_MC3-1-AE09-9800@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-"Aleph_One_Ltd"-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-"Aleph_One_Ltd"-MailScanner-From: hape@compuserve.com Subject: [Cave-survey-archive] from Harry Pearman X-BeenThere: cave-survey-archive@wookware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Cave Survey Data Archiving List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:45:30 -0000 Hi All I am just testing that this group address works but it also seems a good opportunity to restate the proposal I put forward at the Hidden Earth conference. If we could agree this as a statement of direction we can begin to flesh it out into a detailed proposal leading hopefully to a pil= ot scheme. All comments welcome. USER DEFINED SURVEYS It is proposed that end users of mine and cave surveys should be able to plot them themselves by downloading survey data from a central source. Users would be able to exercise discretion over the following elements of= the survey:- - the plotting system used and its various functions - the scale and dimensions of the plot - the use of colour - which part of the cave/mine is to be plotted - the data to be plotted. Data would be structured to meet the needs of specific types of users. That is it in a nut-shell. If it is agreed as a way forward then everything builds upon it. I noted with interest the report on Toughprint in the last issue of Descent. This is water/tear/mud proof paper which can be put in an ink= jet A4 printer or a photocopier. Ideal for User Defined Surveys I would= think. Getting ahead of myself a bit I can visualise the need for at least ten cave-specific true type symbol fonts. You load them into your PC's font directory and can then select the font = in any program that handles text. When you then depress a specified letter= of the keyboard a logo appears on the screen. You can then exercise the= usual options on pointage, colour,boldness and so on. The logos have to be simple line drawings - no fancy shading. I am going to priduce an initial font called CAVE_M. The M stands for mining. My proposed list of symbols is offered for debate. as follows. = = There is plenty of scope for additions if wanted. q =3D open shaft w =3D shaft with removable cover e =3D closed shaft (including blocked and capped shafts) r =3D open adit or drift entrance t =3D adit/drift entrance with barrier which can be passed y =3D permanently closed adit/drift entrance u =3D boundary of walled section of passage or shaft i =3D boundary of traversable collapse o =3D blocked passage p =3D boundary of run of roof props a =3D unsurveyed passage s =3D unentered passage d =3D location of significant graffiti or carving f =3D location of artefact g =3D work face There will be other fonts dealing with geology/water/hazards etc.